But then again that is europe, a lot of things that happen their in the automotive industry doesn't happen here, which goes for a lot of markets.funny though, in europe you can spec benzes far more spartan than any american would think allowable
Well being the type of van this is a feature like that should be standard, it only easily contributes in making it that much more useful to the demographic.Oh, I didn't realize that the seats could turn to face each other. That is really cool. Don't see that too often in vehicles.
Not very accurate statement. The basic Vito Tourer has better seats then what Mercedes put in USA model Metris which are sprinter bus seats. Vito has option for 3 and 4 rail system. Seats can be rotated 180 deg. facing 3rd row. The back of the seats are foldable and reclined all 6 of them(2 and 3 row). It is a mega puzzle why we got such ugly setup. And then they gonna say we do not sell enough of them. Whomever made this decision must resign from his job. You suck at what you do! Vito is an amazing automobile loaded just as much as V-Class if not better and you bring us castrated version of it. Shame on you. I own one just because i love this car and being acquainted with this van long before it arrived to USA. Mercedes mislead consumers during the car show, showing 3 V-Class vans as Metris and at the end brought Vito without any options basic on basic. I wish some one from Germany will read this and correct this mistake. Bring all Vito options and you will see the difference. My personal choice V-class vs Vito, I will take Vito any day if Diesel, 4x4, 4 rail seating, LED lights, panorama roof and distronic options will be available in US and yes a better stereo system.Guys, the Metris is not a V-Class, it's a Vito. It's a commercial work van. The passenger model is a commercial work van with seats. These leather seats and luxury level interiors will not be sold here, unless the limousine market requests it. If you want a luxury Metris you can go to a conversion company, although I think you'd be better served by a lightly used GL350 BlueTec.
What inaccuracy? Your assumption that because a brochure shows pictures with optional equipment, I'm mistaken? Me, I consult Mercedes-Benz's standard equipment document. And the standard seats on the Pro are the same as that on the American Metris.In exactly 10 days I will be back in Europe visiting my family and i will present you with the photo report on VITO and its options vs V-Class. Just so you can see your inaccuracy.
No, I own a Metris, which is neither a Select nor a Pro. Painted bumpers are an option on Tourer Base and Tourer Pro trim levels. It is standard, along with many other things, on the Select.Vadim said:You and I both own Mertis/Vito Tourer Select and not Pro or Basic. Pro is the one with unpainted bumpers. And Basic well it's very basic.
What large words? I think the largest word I used was Conditioning. 12 letters? I can use large words. I could talk about the political movement that wants to go against dissolving the church of England, and their position on antidisestablishmentarianism. Thats a big word. At 28 letters, it is more than double the size of Conditioning. Why are we talking about this, anyway?Vadim[/quote said:Again, for some reason you are throwing all this large words.
Wrong. Median household income in Western Europe is overall nearly the same as in the US, with numerous countries beating that of the US. And their social programs tend to make disposable income in most of Europe much higher than here.Vadim[/quote said:Problem is very simple. Income of american people are generally higher than in most of places in Europe and Asia, right?
People in Asia and Europe have a very different perception of Mercedes-Benz as a brand than in the United States and Canada. Crash standards in Europe are generally much higher than that in the US. But they are also different. US crash standards are based on unreasonable and unrealistic standards that really only benefit cars that are designed specifically to make those standards- its a protectionist policy, and always has been.Vadim said:Population of the USA and Canada are equal to the population of Europe, right?
Benz, KIA, Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Hundai, Opel, Reno, Citroen and many more automakers selling their vans in Europe pretty well, right?
Crash test standards and exhaust standards are slightly higher in CA but overall it is about the same, right?
As we know taxes and overall price of the van is higher in Europe than it is in USA, right?
So people in europe and asia buy this van and have privilege to select options which they want and we can not?
Exactly, Vadim. The Mercedes-Benz brand is perceived very differently in Europe and Mercedes is very concerned about ruining the carefully cultivated image they have here.Vadim said:Do you know that in Europe most popular taxi car is E-class in some countries you can see S-class Taxi. In Netherlands where benzin and diesel fuel is more expensive than anywhere in europe they start using Tesla's. just FYI.
Where I am going with that, Mercedes Benz USA or whomever made this nonsense decision that americans do not need or can not aford van with all this useful options that available for the rest of the world, are not wise.
They'd rather fail at selling the Metris than offend their luxury sedan customers. Verstehen?Vadim said:By making this decision MBUSA will not sell enough of them throughout USA and eventually will kill it.
I know. I'm really sad that they had to dumb down their products awesomeness because they wanted low margin sales to stupid Americans who can't figure out how to not drink coffee in their cars. If you want buttons and gadgets, go buy a Cadillac. I really would like to know why you are looking for buttons and gadgets in a commercial van.Vadim said:Americans like buttons and gadgets, there is nothing wrong with it. Up until 90's Benz did not include cupholder in their passenger sedans.
It is 2012 and I want buttons ad gadgets. I do not want to argue anymore about whatever that you trying to prove or disapprove.
I want options!!! that is it.