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Just read something that's a bit concerning on cnet. They stated that the Metris prefers to run on high-octane fuel and that adds up. Was hoping it would run on regular fuel instead.
That is correct. 91 octane is recommended, but not required. If you want the power and mileage, you need to use premium.

Here is another Metris brochure the shows more specs. http://assets.mbvans.com/Mercedes-Benz-Vans/Brochures/Mercedes-Benz-Metris-Vans-Brochure.pdf

Also, the Cargo van has a combined 23 mpg while the Passenger van has a combined mpg of 22.
 

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Also not clear is if those numbers are with the optional start/stop system. So we don't know if these numbers are best case or worst case.
 

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That is disappointing. I guess it may be why they waited so long to make the numbers available. I figured the highway numbers would be better with a 7 speed transmission. I currently have a similarly shaped 6 cylinder VW Eurovan that also weighs close to what the Metris weighs. It has a 4speed automatic and runs close to 3000RPM at 60-65 and I can get near 20 with that on the highway.
 

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Not to upset anyone, but if you look up the same vehicle in the UK (with a Diesel of course) it provides a 47.6 MPG cycle, imagine that!!
The EPA can say what it wants about Diesel, its the way to go and you cant get 100% rid of the NoX values, so yes VW did a slightly bad thing because they got caught, they don't measure the NoX in Europe the same way, that is why the issue is not such a big thing over there.


So Diesel would give you a 50% reduction in CO2! why is that a bad thing???
 

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The cargo van mileage is a little better than the above mentioned passenger van mileage:

21 city (up one), 24 highway (up one) 22 combined (the same). And that is with eco start stop according to the specs at
https://fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/36991.shtml

The fact that the combined is the same implies to me that either they are expecting the mix of city vs highway to be different for one versus the other (the web site lets you personalize it) or they are small differences which round differently when combined.
 

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So I got a chance to drive a Metris cargo van at a local dealer "event". Very impressive. Quiet, comfortable. Anyway, the model they had available for test rides had been used yesterday and today solely for rides that were on a mix of highway and local roads around the dealer and when I checked the trip computer...yes I know they are not 100% accurate...it read 550 miles at an average mpg of 25.5.

I also noted that on the highway once in top gear, the engine was only turning 1850 rpm. As I wrote earlier, my 2001 VW Eurovan, which weighs about the same and is same height and width, can do about 20 mpg despite running at almost 300 rpm at 60 mph.

I guess I am hoping real world numbers turn out better than 23. We shall see.
 

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also disappointed

I to was hoping to see better gas mileage. I have a 5 speed standard 1995 VW full camper and it gets 21-22 on the highway on regular gas. With only an 18 gallon gas tank that's not much cruising range which is an issue for me in the wild west. Darn I was hoping this would what I was looking for.:frown:
 

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Not to upset anyone, but if you look up the same vehicle in the UK (with a Diesel of course) it provides a 47.6 MPG cycle, imagine that!!
Reimo-the UK figure is probably in imperial gallons, so overstated in US gal terms by 20 percent. So closer to 39mpg...
 

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2016 Cargo here... I am still on my first tank. 300 miles so far, and 21.8mpg according to the computer which makes me VERY happy! I've been using ECO most of the time. I did a mostly freeway trip of about 80 miles and it said 25.7 with average speed of 39mph. I think the mileage will improve once it's broken in, but by that point there will be another 500lbs of shelving and tools in it, which will negate any gains.

There is lots of stop and go here in Orange County. Your mileage may vary, as they say, but it should be much better in most parts of the country. I've been taking it easy, but it seems like it would be easy to land in the mid-teens with aggressive city driving.
 

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I'm looking at making the Metris our next family vehicle, but the low epa mileage is a strike against choosing it. It seems all the owners of the Metris are getting better than EPA rating, which is opposite from most vehicles. With that said, what are the chances we can get the ones with a Metris to start tracking your mileage using Fuelly.com and their easy to use app. Using that app allows you to input several variables such as octane, distance, type of driving, and other notes. Having that "real world" mileage (whatever your real world might be) could be very beneficial to others and would be greatly appreciated.

Even Foxnews.com got 27mpg without trying hard. http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2016/01/14/2016-mercedes-benz-metris-test-drive/?intcmp=hphz19
 

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Why do you call it poor mileage? 24 mpg isn't bad for a 5000 lb (with driver and such) van with decent performance. Keep in mind that the Metris is the same size and not much lighter as the S-class. I find its mileage respectable. I drove from roughly Trenton, NJ to Annapolis, MD round trip the other day. Statistics: over the roughly 362 miles I drove, I averaged 72 mph (because of some in-town driving. My moving average on the interstate was around 80, with a trip top speed of 97) I averaged 24.6 mpg. I would hazard to guess that no other serious 7 passenger vehicle on the market, save a Tesla Model X, could touch that.
 

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Why do you call it poor mileage? 24 mpg isn't bad for a 5000 lb (with driver and such) van with decent performance. Keep in mind that the Metris is the same size and not much lighter as the S-class. I find its mileage respectable. I drove from roughly Trenton, NJ to Annapolis, MD round trip the other day. Statistics: over the roughly 362 miles I drove, I averaged 72 mph (because of some in-town driving. My moving average on the interstate was around 80, with a trip top speed of 97) I averaged 24.6 mpg. I would hazard to guess that no other serious 7 passenger vehicle on the market, save a Tesla Model X, could touch that.
Was that in response to me? If so, I didn't call the mileage poor. I was only stating the official epa mileage is rated low. And I consider it low because MB stated before the official numbers came out that they expected mileage to be in the upper 20s. And another reason I call it low, the Suburban gets 23 hwy and it's considered a gas guzzler by some.

But back to the subject, your example is the exact reason why I was hoping to persuade some of the current owner to track their mileage with Fuelly and show their real world average mileage.
 

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I would bet you that the Suburban wouldn't achieve 23 mpg going 80 mph. The EPA highway cycle is based on a constant speed of 55. German cars tend to be tuned to attain maximum cruising efficiency at higher speeds than American vehicles.
 

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I would bet you that the Suburban wouldn't achieve 23 mpg going 80 mph. The EPA highway cycle is based on a constant speed of 55. German cars tend to be tuned to attain maximum cruising efficiency at higher speeds than American vehicles.
That's all the American consumer has (EPA) to compare with for the most part. Again, what you are saying is the reason I'm hoping some of the Metris owners on here will use Fuelly and report their mileage there so we can get a good average and compare better. Nothing against what's been stated here, but I want more than the trip to grandma's or a one tank average. If no one want too, I fine with that.
 
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