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Hello Metris Forum. I'm looking for a van as a viable family and fun hauler as a three-row SUV wouldn't give me the ease of access a van gives. I looked at the FWD only odyssey and AWD hybrid Sienna so far but the RWD Metris has piqued my interest, partly because it's not a run-of-the mill minivan.

I'd imagine the tech and gadgetry is lackluster compared to the two conventional Japanese minivans. Can anyone with a well optioned 2021 or 2022 Metris 7-8 seater chime in on how well featured the revised Metris can be? I've played with the build configurator on mbvans.com and it seems like you can get a fair bit of tech since the update I think from two years back. How is wind noise in this van and is the turbo four able to do ok hauling seven people plus gear around no problem? How is the MBenz distronic (adaptive cruise) in a van this size and is blind spot monitoring available? Any feedback is appreciated!!!
 

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Lots of threads around that could be useful. One trick to find them would be to search for Sienna.

I suggest you take the family for a test drive. Review the seating.
 

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Thank you Pounce. I just watched Doug Demuro's review on the 2017 Metris and he bashed the car (figuratively) with a Louisville slugger, and without any mercy! The comments also are shocking... not sure if this will be the right car unless there are substantial changes for 2022. I do know MBZ did give it a suite of optional tech features now like blind spot monitoring, adaptive cruise, hold assist, etc.

More digging in the works!
 

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We get shafted for all the good stuff here.

No 4matic, no updated interior, no projector or even LED headlamps (what?!), no auto high beams for safety, etc. No wonder these Metris' aren't selling well at all to families when you have Siennas, Pacificas, Carnivals, and Odysseys on the market. The US market Metris is 10 years or more behind in tech and design. What a shame...
 

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The don't think there is anything new from 21. Plenty has been said about that review on the forum. Not sure I have the energy to sum it up. I'd say keep reading. You can't really go wrong with the typical family vans. The Metris is unique so you need to find value in its differences.

The Metris is not positioned or marketed in the same category as family mini vans. Its a people mover in the USA.
 

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Thank you Pounce. I just watched Doug Demuro's review on the 2017 Metris and he bashed the car (figuratively) with a Louisville slugger, and without any mercy! The comments also are shocking... not sure if this will be the right car unless there are substantial changes for 2022. I do know MBZ did give it a suite of optional tech features now like blind spot monitoring, adaptive cruise, hold assist, etc.

More digging in the works!
Rear passenger accommodations are austere. The seats are church pews and the windows don't open.

It seems as if many Metris Passenger owners here did not buy the van for conventional minivan duty. Lots of them are used as RVs. I wanted a mid-sized utility van with rear windows, insulated walls, and a flat floor, so I got a Passenger van and took out the seats. I also removed the huge cupholder bulge, opening up legroom and allowing easy transit from front to back. For this, no minivan can compare. But if my use case was rear passengers, I might not like it as much.

Hill start assist was standard and blind spot assist was an option in all model years.
 

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Is it a viable road trip van? Yes.
Is it more capable than other minivans in terms of load and capacity? Yes.

Unfortunately in the US market, we get the US Metris with a limited feature and option set that MB USA / VANS controls; and not the EU Vito with its full range of features and options. Which of course leads to some less favorite ratings in minivan comparisons and of course that #1 let's bash the Metris video.

If a person wants the very latest features, lots of bells and whistles, chrome accenting, stow and go seats, maybe more current exterior trends ... Metris is a no. Even if the load capacity is more limited for road tripping and true multi purpose use on many main stream minivans.

If a person is satisfied with a spacious people hauler first and foremost that has extra headroom, extra cargo and load capacity. Then a Metris may be suitable.

Having driven a multitude of vehicles of all kinds and minivans for 20 years as a primary vehicle, often as a loaner and rental. Undeniably the Metris is old school. I personally find it refreshing to not be " on trend ". I wish mine had a few extra options, but the market being what it was and not being able to custom order at the time I wanted to purchase, nor being able to wait 6 months for delivery; I just prioritized my options and got most of what I needed / wanted.

I have no doubt I would buy another Metris, when the time comes, after MB USA / VANS update the model and gives the US market a Metris that we all deserve to be able to buy. The passenger model deserves to be stepped up in the direction of the V-class. The cargo model should optionally get access to more tech as well. If they can do it with a Sprinter, they can do it with a Metris. The vans exist, the parts exist, it is one factory, they're all made to order ... just open up the option list. The next option on my list would be a Sprinter, but that requires me to have a commercial garage space.
 

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In the past couple of weeks I purchased a Metris and rented a pacifica. For me it is an apples and oranges comparison. The metris is bigger but not too big, taller, but not too tall, and mine is upfitted as a getaway. Yes, it is low on tech. But the pacifica was way overdone with tech, and half the time it wasn't doing what I expected it to do. I ended up feeling like it was just more electronics to break and cause trouble. There is no way the pacifica could work for me as a camping vehicle.
 

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FWIW. We have a 2016 Metris passenger as our main family hauler. No children in the family. 3 adults routinely, 5 on occasion. More in a rare circumstance. Mostly local town and country driving, but we've made plenty of trips with 3 to 4 adults of over 1000 miles. It fits our needs very well. We love it. It fits in a standard garage, has plenty of people and cargo room, seats are comfortable and adult size, AC and heating system is powerful, I can put my music in the audio system, performance is more than adequate. Biggest plus for me is how well it drives and handles, biggest minus is the sets don't fold. I actually like the fact that it does NOT have the latest tech. We also have a 2022 mid-size SUV and the driver "safety" systems are obtrusive and work inconsistently. Hate them. If prices don't rise too much there's a chance I'll buy a 2023 when my ELW is finished. Dave

BTW, the front wipers are the best I've ever had on any vehicle and the standard cruise control is a marvel. I also hate adaptive cruise control systems. Yeh, I'm an old fart.;)
 

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What Icerabbit said…

I have a 2021 passenger with almost every option. I like it, but I am not hauling a family around. I feel like it is a bit noisy inside (more road noise than wind) and the climate control system a tad primitive (no separate controls for passenger or rear seats). I haven’t had passengers yet during extreme weather to see how they fare in the rear seats…. There is a lack of cup holders, reading lights, and USB sockets compared to regular minivans.

I needed to be able to remove seats easily, so I aftermarket upgraded the two rows of seats (Metris seats.com) with the Euro version and the longer rails. I find they are more sculpted and comfortable, easier to remove because they are foldable, and they also slide so I can position them according to my load. They also recline nominally. Still, they are harder to remove (heavy!) compared to my Suburban’s seats.

I drive my daughter‘s Pacifica sometimes and that is much more family friendly, but the visibility is not as good, the load capacity not as good (no motorcycle will fit in her van), and the build quality doesn’t feel the same. I think my van will last longer than hers, but probably cost a lot more to fix. The Metris feels much roomier and it’s easier to climb in the back row - the Pacifica back row is tiny! I don’t feel as trapped in the Metris as it is roomier and better via. I also have 8 passenger capability.

The adaptive cruise control is really good. Better than the ones in my other vehicles. Blind spot monitoring is good too. Apple Car Play crashes all the time - still no fix for that. The turning radius is amazing.

Another thing to think about is that there are not a lot of MB dealers if it breaks down on a road trip. Not all MB dealers will work on a Metris or Sprinter. Of course, independents probably will.

I found one for sale on a dealer’s lot and took it for a test drive. If you did that, it would give you a good sense of what you were getting into.

The engine feels like it has enough get-up-and-go. Seems to pull my 2000+ lb. trailer with ease.

Pacifica does have a hybrid version is you want something like that, but you lose the stowing rear seats if you go that route. By the way, those stowing seats are pretty awesome…
 

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Looks like you've received plenty of comments and perspectives, feel free to direct message if you have specific questions.
We bought a 2016 passenger new & well- fitted, as a primary shuttle, and have been happy with it coming up on 60k. Our 3 (pre-teens then) are driving age now but have no trouble getting in and out, and don't need the gadgetry, because they have their own. Plus plenty of lights, vents, plugs, etc for long trips.
Safety features were ahead of market competitors up until the last refresh, and this van still has a solid quality feel that everyone who rides in it is impressed with - and it's still very unique on roads around Chicago.
We've taken a number of long road trips, including towing uhaul trailers, and it's performed well in all types of weather. It's also surprisingly quiet at max speed :), both the engine and the wind noise.
After the unexpected PCV replacement, the only issue has been trouble with motorized sliding doors, but that's not unique to MB. So I routinely recommend the van to folks wanting to seat 8, and anticipate our's lasting well past our Sienna's 215k.
 

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I was originally not going to comment, as it seemed like you would get plenty of responses. You have gotten plenty of responses, but I feel like I could add and echo to this discussion.

I use my van with my family of 6, one of whom is severely disabled. The ride height, headroom and seating positions have made this a very good vehicle for my family. As others have mentioned the backseat is the best you will find in a minivan type platform. For that matter the second row is also likely the best you could find as well. Both will easily accommodate three grown adults, or three car seats, or any combination. Three car seats in the second row does make access to the third row a little more difficult, but it can be done. I have also done the euro seat and rails swap, and recommend it. It makes the whole vehicle much more versatile.

As for tech, the metris is certainly no slouch. There is likely as much or more tech in the metris than your run of the mill minivan. However, it is definitely lacking in gadgetry; no DVD player, no headrest monitor, no built in cooler, no built in vacuum, no mood lighting, no heads-up display, etc. I traded in a tippy top of the line sienna for my metris. I did miss the gadgets for the first week or so, but the metris is so much more capable and interesting to drive that I quickly forgot about those things. Besides, our kids all have their own iPads anyway, so most of what we had in the Sienna was duplicative.

Is the metris capable? Absolutely! We have traveled with all six of us and all of our gear (young kids require an absurd amount of “gear”) and a 4000+ pound trailer all over the mountains of Idaho, Utah, Washington, and Oregon. It drove almost the same as it does empty. The ride may have actually been better. I could not have done that with any other minivan on the market.
Do you want to use it like a truck? You can! With the seats out it is absolutely cavernous. For example, I have transported: plywood, lumber, firewood, bricks, bagged gravel, river rocks, two different riding lawnmowers, several tracked Honda snow blowers, 5 arcade cabinets, and an endless list of household furniture. The nice thing about the metris is the truly flat floor. No other minivan gives you a truly flat floor, the dodge has fold flat seats but you have these flappy things that you have to fight when you are sliding things in or out. You can remove seats and fold the back row in others, but you still have obtrusive anchor points to deal with.

In the end, you just need to find the right fit for you and your family. As others have said before, this van just works for me and my family. I sold my dodge truck and traded in our sienna when we bought the metris, now I use it for everything!
 

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Have a 1 1/2 year old Metris "Explorer" conversion. 29k milage. Road trip last June from Florida around entire western US for 2 months. Excellent handeling, comfort and only passed on mountain grades by 1 ton 7 liter Dodge diesels. The only downside is service. Most MB dealers pretentiously inform you to contact a Sprinter Dealer. Even then it's up to 4 to 6 week waiting time. Thank God for Jiffy Lube $50.
 

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Hello Metris Forum. I'm looking for a van as a viable family and fun hauler as a three-row SUV wouldn't give me the ease of access a van gives. I looked at the FWD only odyssey and AWD hybrid Sienna so far but the RWD Metris has piqued my interest, partly because it's not a run-of-the mill minivan.

I'd imagine the tech and gadgetry is lackluster compared to the two conventional Japanese minivans. Can anyone with a well optioned 2021 or 2022 Metris 7-8 seater chime in on how well featured the revised Metris can be? I've played with the build configurator on mbvans.com and it seems like you can get a fair bit of tech since the update I think from two years back. How is wind noise in this van and is the turbo four able to do ok hauling seven people plus gear around no problem? How is the MBenz distronic (adaptive cruise) in a van this size and is blind spot monitoring available? Any feedback is appreciated!!!
We owned a Sienna (2019) but during a rear end collision (~25MPH) showed me the real weakness of the chassis. I drove the hybrid and after 15 minutes I could not wait to take it back to the dealership. Cheap interior, terrible power, loud CVT. This month I just ordered a Metris Passenger van and hopefully will be delivered by January as 2023 model. I am practical. If I don't use an option, I don't pay for it. So my family van will be with manual seat adjustment and without power sliding doors as I can do it myself much quicker than the electric motor. For me the must was the enhanced AC, cold weather package, DISTRONIC, painted bumpers and 8 seat configuration with the tailgate. I don't need advanced safety package with annoying active lane keeping which I turn off in every car, and I can live without fog lamp and rain sensing windshield wipers. Again, it's personal preference. I opted for 16" alloy since the tires are less expensive and gives me more comfort, but if I want to get 17" for the summer, I can choose from a great variety of rims.
Some people complain about the fixed seats. My kids are in the carseat so who cares? The older 2 will be fine without adjusting the seat. Rear entertainment system? iPad with velcro and downloaded movies on home wi-fi. The cargo behind the 3rd row is enough for a family vacation (fits 5-6 duffle bags) but I also have a Thule roofbox just in case. I don't transport building material or anything large, never tow anything so the Metris is perfect. I know the model from Europe since we had the Vito with diesel engine for years but the only enemy was the rust. Talking about early 2000s.
The new head unit has Apply Carplay so I'm perfectly fine with that. Maps and apple music works. The engine is more than enough but you can compare the torque to a European V class diesel. The V 220d has 380nm torque and 163HP. The metris has 350nm and 208HP. Mercedes would not sell a vehicle with underpowered engine. Their base V class is only 330 Nm, 136 hp. And yes, people buy it and works. When the speed limit is usually 65-75 MPH you'll be fine even with 7 people and gears. Think about the extra weight these trucks carry in the cargo or camper version. Probably more than your family and the gears.
In my opinion the long term solution is the Metris. Nobody will fight if they have to travel in the 3rd row which isn't so roomy in the Sienna. The Metris is extremely safe and as reliable as a Sienna as long as you follow the service manual and maintain it.
 
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